Israel needs a political party that will unite those who believe in a Higher Power and the promised destiny of the Jewish people

This plan is absoultely obscene. Basically the definition is "lets remove every Arab from their land and finish taking it all over".

Great job rabbi.

This plan is logical, fair, and deals with the root issues. However, Jews in Israel are perhaps trying harder than anyone else to destroy the historical connection that Jews have with the land. In other words, Jews are trying their hardest to prevent the Geula. Their efforts are masked in plans like Oslo and expelling Jews from Gush Katif which clearly are filled with huge holes in logic. So, I believe that in the end, the greatest resistance to this plan will come from the Jewish nation.

While I agree with the plan you have yet to convince me that Jordan, the USA, UN or other Arab countries would accept this. A statement from King Abdullah would go a long way in getting your elected with a majority to the next Knesset.

Dear Sir I appreciate the good intention of putting this plan to have peace in the Middle East.

As an Arab, Egyptian, with a Muslim background and as a reformer of Islam who resisted Islamic Fundamentalism for more than twenty years and as a person who joined at some stage of his life the JI (Jamaha Islameia) with Dr. AlZawaheri who became later on the second in command of AlQueda, and as a human being who wants to tell the truth and nothing but the truth….
I would like to put my view about this plan:

This plan is correct in trying to have a final solution , in trying to have clear line between Israel and the Arab states and in having Samaria-Judea- Gaza back to Israel, however, it can end in catastrophe for Israel as allowing millions of Palestinians to live inside Israel while still under the political control of Jordan will simply allow Muslims to penetrate Israel from within to finally apply their dream as Hadith of "Prophet Mohamed" said according to ALBuchkary: "When the end days are near….the stones will talk to Muslims telling them O'Muslim come ...come....there is a Jew behind me....come and slaughter him/her".

What I am saying here is that allowing this huge number of Muslims to live in Israel while their believe is to annihilate the Jews, is just a form of suicide to Israel. As long as Muslims did not change their teaching in Mosques and evidence showed that they can really love the Jews , this plan will end into a major catastrophe for Israel. Imagine it....3 million Muslims live now in Israel while they belong politically to an Arab country...they will immediately change Israel into an Islamic state (by force) and Jews and Christians will become second class citizens and have to bow to a Taliban like Islamic System!

This is what can happen in Israel if it accepted these Muslims to live with them while they are still 'brain washed' and have unimaginable hatred to Israel and the Jews....…………………………….the end result of this is probably "The Islamic Republic of Israel!!".……Do we need this to happen! I personally prefer to die before seeing such a day happening and before seeing the dream of the whole Jewish nation that lasted for 2000 years collapsing in front of me.

The plan also assumed that ending poverty for Palestinians will end terrorism (this is the dream of many as it is relatively easy solvable problem). Sadly, this is not the case with Islamism and as any one can notice the highest level in Global terrorism came from Saudi Arabia (richest country in the Arab world).....and Palestinian Christians do not do suicide bombes while they live in the same circumstances. So the problem is clearly related to an ideology of hatred rather than simply to poverty and bad living conditions. The problem is in the Islamic teaching and poverty is only a contributing factor in case of the Palstinians.

The plan assumed ending terrorists is a simple task.....the last Palestinian elections showed that majority (90%) supported Hamas.....and this what I am saying.... we are dealing with a nation of terrorists (Palastinian Muslims) and not only few people.... this needs a totally different approach to solve it.

The plan did not put the Islamic Ideology into the equation while it is the main cause of the problem! so the plan is deficient in a major aspect and is like planning a response in Chess while ignoring a major piece of your opponent……………...any plan based on ignoring facts will end in failure.

This plan could work very well if Palestinians were Christians or if Islamic teaching changed and became peaceful.

Doing any step without making sure of having a solution for the phenomenon of Islamism can end in absolute failure and uncorrectable catastrophe.

Again I will use the chess example, it is like putting a plan to win a game in chess while the Queen of the opponent can totally destroy this plan.....without having a plan to get rid of the Queen (Islamic Hatred to the Jews) first, a crisis will happen.

Finally, I am also against the road map and I believe that there are many other possible solutions that gives the land to Israel and solve the problem of Palestinians without taking such a high risk for the existence of Israel itself.

with much respect
T. Hamid
www.islamicreformation.com

I am really excited to have heard you on the radio today in Arkansas. I thank you for your hard work on this peace plan. I hope that the others there at knesset and abroad agree with your outlook. And congradulations to all who read this about the conveining of the Sanhidrin!!!!!!
The MESSIAH IS COMING QUICKLY!

Leaders of surrounding Arab nations do NOT want an Arab democracy in their midst - as they won't be leaders for long. Therefore they are behind most of the terrorism in the PA territories...and this is the crux of the problem. See below

Pity the Palestinian Pawns
By Michelle Stirling-Anosh
Why does it seem impossible to make peace in the Middle East? Westerners naively think that all people in the world want to live in a democracy and enjoy the rights and freedoms they have. Perhaps all PEOPLE of the world do want this; but certainly few dictators do.
No matter what they say publicly, most of the Arab leaders of the Middle East countries don't want a Palestinian democracy, because that might give their own people funny ideas. And that would probably lead to the deposing of the current leader, whoever he may be.
So the Palestinians have become a convenient pawn for these nations and any anti-Israeli/anti-American movement within them
The first and biggest culprit in the game is Yasser Arafat. Arafat is not even a Palestinian. He was born in Egypt. And while he may be emblematic of the 'terrorist who is the ultimate freedom fighter', look at the freedom he has won for himself and his adopted people now.
Some freedom. He is now in a form of house arrest in Mukata - his 'empire' is in ruins around him. His people are now living from closure to closure and every terrorist attack by a Palestinian group which is either directly funded or given a free hand by Arafat's regime brings more and more sorrow to those innocent Palestinians who once lived a relatively free life, earning a decent living in Israel at a higher standard of living than their counterparts in the surrounding Middle East states.
But by initiating the intifada, Arafat is still 'king'. How long do you think he would last if his people had a true free and democratic vote, and they were not threatened by the internal 'mafia' of the various terrorist groups?
Yasser Arafat is a kind of "American dream" in the Middle East. In the Middle East, power is typically only conferred by power - either tyrannical rule - or through monarchial lineage. Yet Yasser Arafat, this non-Palestinian 'refugee', non-royalty, former peasant from Egypt once held the record for the most number of visits to the White House! He got the red carpet treatment in every nation of the world! He did what was formerly impossible in the Middle East. He overcame his class in this highly structured society. And he, like his ruling Arab counterparts, has no desire to see that power end through the creation of a democracy.
For all the public talk about the "Arab brotherhood", we see little brotherly action in the Middle Eastern States. Following the displacement of some say a few hundred thousand to a half-million Arab refugees after the Arab-initiated war of 1948 against the nascent State of Israel, the "Arab brothers" of the region were content to force the refugees to suffer in camps. Now more than 50 years later, they are still there, there are many more, and since the mid-1960's they have called themselves Palestinians.
By contrast, after World War II, some 14 million refugees were settled world-wide within 5 years. When Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien visited the Middle East region a couple of years ago he generously offered to resettle 15,000 Palestinians in the Great White North- and was soundly rapped for his insolence! The PA want their people to continue to suffer. And for all the talk of the Arab brotherhood, the people known as the Palestinian refugees today simply 'are not one of us', as far as other Arabs are concerned.
For more than a decade, the West and other global states such as Japan have been actively financing the push for 'real peace' in the Middle East. To this end, Yasser Arafat has received more than 900 Million dollars from the European community alone. If one divides that sum between the highest estimated figure of Palestinians in the world (some say 6 or 7 million) that still means each and every Palestinian could have won the Lotto a thousand times.
But that did not happen. The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza live in poverty - they now even have little or no chance of working in Israel where once 100,000 of them worked.
Yet Yasser Arafat and his high-ranking colleagues still have fancy cars and houses and Swiss bank accounts. And they are still getting money from you well-meaning Western tax-payers. For Gulf leaders who hate Israel and the threatening democracy and industrial success that it represents, Yasser Arafat is a great gift from the West. Here is a man who will gladly do their dirty work for them, and they don't even have to ask him to do it. He will ensure there will never be a democratic Palestinian state, so people like Hosni Mubarak and (until the recent Gulf War) Saddam Hussein could sleep at night, knowing their own sons will 'inherit' their rule.
Despite Egypt's apparent middle road, Mubarak doesn't want a real democracy in Egypt. He has some 68 million, mostly uneducated people living on the poverty line. His country has limited industry to support them and many in the outlying regions live an agricultural subsistence lifestyle as they did thousands of years ago. Mubarak needs American money, so he is willing to play along with the West - to a point. But not to establishing a true democracy.
Democracy would mean that women would have the right to vote - the right of choice. They might cause the same kind of revolution Canadian women caused when Nellie McClung and her colleagues won the right to vote. And now look at Canada - the country is wealthy, has one of the highest standards of living in the world, one of the highest levels of health and education...and yes, it is in large part due to the liberation and participation of women. In Saudi Arabia, women don't even have the right to drive a car. To a demigod, democracy is a threat.
Saddam Hussein of Iraq and his cohorts certainly don't want real democracy. That's why there are so many terrorist attacks happening there against the Americans. The Americans are close to success - democracy is at hand. But for regional leaders, this is too much.
Democracy is so ...well ...confining for a tyrannical leader. In a democracy they won't let you gas to death those citizens who don't like your tyrannical rule. Democracy makes the leader accountable. In a democracy you have to answer for the brutal treatment given to suspected 'collaborators'; you have to explain why you build posh palaces while your people live in poverty - and you can't just cover up mass graves of 300,000 people. Democracies are so...annoying. No wonder Saddam Hussein was happy to send cheques for $10,000 to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. No one helped his regional cause more! Let's look at Syria. Bashar Assad, educated in England. Surely he shares Western values. Not really. He is the heir to the Allouwite 'throne' in Syria. The Allouwites are a minority who hold tenuous power over the rest of the Syrians. The country's main income comes from drug dealing through Lebanon where his army sits on top of that puppet government. Why would Bashar Assad want democracy? He would be voted out in a minute and once on the street he would suffer a violent end in vengeance for his father's and uncle's crimes against humanity. Why would he ever want to absorb Palestinian refugees? They are not 'his people' and their numbers, no matter how small, work against him.
And we know how the Assad family handles revolutionary voices. They simply level the town -as they did in the village of Hama - killing some 20,000 people overnight.
How about King Abdullah of Jordan? Of all the regional leaders, he would probably want some kind of democracy for the Palestinians, but only for those in the West Bank and Gaza. Some 80% of his own population is Palestinian; his own wife is a Palestinian. Yet he is a minority tribal leader - the head of the Hashemite kingdom. As for true democracy in Jordan? Very risky with the turbulent and violent percentage of Palestinians seeking revenge for 50 years of servitude.
The Palestinians in Jordan tried to revolt once. Abdullah's father, King Hussein, ensured that the resident Palestinians wouldn't try to revolt again. He undertook his "Black September" action in 1970 (a series of battles which took longer than that month) - wiping out a few thousand Palestinian agitators and routing the terrorist organizations. Of course in a real democracy, he would never have been able to do such a thing. Saudi Arabia? Well, as one of the last and largest feudal monarchies in the world, which sits on probably the greatest wealth, the ruling class has no desire for change. The Palestinians are just another type of serf and they are certainly not deserving of their own state - especially not a democratic one. What message would that send to Saudi serfs? No, much easier and better to verbally support the Palestinian Authority to ensure that the conflict with Israel will continue; then those serfs will not rise above their station in life and they will not inspire anyone else in the region. Ironically for them the situation is about to boomerang as terrorist groups like Al-Quaida seek to capitalize on the dissatisfactions of the non-ruling Saudi serfs - attempting to destroy a corrupt monarchy and replace it with an extremist tyranny...but no democracy.
The list goes on, but in most instances, the circumstances are the same.
The Palestinians are excellent media pawns too. The issue gets lots of global airtime. Jerusalem is 'home' to hundreds, sometimes thousands, of foreign journalists. Since Israel is a democracy, the TV, radio and press teams have a great deal of freedom to report on anything they see, hear or suspect. The Palestinian pawns perform for the cameras without ever questioning why so much airtime isn't helping them get freedom and democracy. The little Palestinian boys throwing rocks at the Israeli soldiers believe they are fighting for their freedom, when in fact they are ensuring the opposite.
And to top it off the Palestinian Authority has created an army of Palestinian suicide bombers. The cheapest military machine in the world. The suicide/homicide 'soldier' is trained/brainwashed within weeks, no expensive equipment required, and there is no expensive maintenance or rescue of the 'soldier' required - the blast is usually completely destructive. The outcome is lots of free TV coverage worldwide, lots of psychological impact on the enemy - and most of all, each bomber ensures that the enemy is also less and less inclined to want a democratic state of suicide bombers next door.
The tyrannical rulers of the region (especially Yasser Arafat) couldn't ask for a better deal. People you don't like or care about are willing to kill themselves in great number, for a simple fantasy that a few charming "Jonestown-like" leaders can drill into their heads...and they are fighting your enemy for you, against their own interests! It's perfect!
And is Israel the real enemy?
No. The "enemy" is democracy. Israel's existence as a democratic state in the region has upset the balance by illustrating that democracy leads to change, growth, productivity and creativity. Democracy empowers the people. But of course if you are a tyrant, you don't want powerful people. You only want pawns. And well-intentioned, na?ve foreigners are both funding the on-going oppression of all of the region's people - none of whom have democratic rights, while with their anti-war/anti-America/anti-Israel messages (i.e. instead of 'anti-Saddam' or 'anti-Arafat' messages) are ensuring that such tyrannies and dictatorships remain in power.
Tragically in all this, the Palestinian people are the pawns, as are those in the West who naively play along with this Machiavellian game. Obviously there are a certain number of Palestinians who are not suicide bombers and who may not love Israel, but they do want to have a real life. These are the Palestinian 'collaborators' - brave people who are really willing to risk their life for an ideal - peace, work, freedom - all for the price of telling Israel where the real terrorists are on a certain day or at a certain time. Many pay for it with their lives - and these are the unsung heroes that no Western governments, human rights agencies or left wing civil libertarians acknowledge or help. These Palestinians see the farcical reality of the situation and the hopelessness. Without their help in destroying the terrorist infrastructure, there will never be a Palestinian state and their children will have no future. They do not want to be martyrs - but more than that, they do not want their children and their nation to be hooked by the world's largest suicide cult into being martyred by Arafat, in order to stop democracy's spread in the Middle East.
Lately you've heard that Arafat is diverting $100,000 per month to his wife in France....that he gives $50,000 a month to terrorist organizations. Are you surprised? While the West still naively struggles with its own disbelief that this Nobel Peace Prize winner is not acting according to their plan, Arafat and his tyrannical cronies laugh all the way to the bank as they walk down the red carpet to another international conference on making peace in the Middle East.
"It's the occupation," they say. "It's the settlements. It's the assassinations."
No it's not. It's the way they want it to be, forever.
Read my lips.
Arafat does not want a democratic Palestinian state. For what? He is not a Palestinian. And it would ruin his rags to riches success story - the only one of its kind in the Middle East.

@Michelle Stirling-Anosh
10 11 03
anosh@kinneret.net.il

This is THE correct plan!

...But the arabs will never go for it. Their goal is simple, the extermination of every Jew and the destruction of Israel. You might as well try to negotiate with Joeseph Goebbels and Adolf Hitler if you think you can ever trust these savages who intentionally blow up women and children. True peace is impossible, we must forcibly deport them (the evil Jordanian Gov't will never except them) and use force.

Request a copy of the Unofficial White Paper on Israel's Legal Rights to Judea, Samaria, and Gaza Under International Law at MiddleEastInfo@walla.com. It includes 56 weblinks from the most authoritative sources, signifying each year since the birth of the modern State of Israel.

To further Benny Elon's plan, I suggest that a worldwide effort should be launched to diffuse the conflict over the Temple Mount.

Uri Dan (Jerusalem Post, August 5) reported potential violence by Muslims against existing mosques.

When Egypt's President Nasser, planning the Aswan Dam, threatened Abu Simbal, a worldwide effort succesfully move this monument to another location.

Why not move the Temple Mount mosques,perhaps to Jordan? Muslims direct their prayers to Saudi Arabia, not Jerusalem.

Moving the mosques from the Temple Mount would prevent their destruction and would make a great contribution to peace.

Aaron Swirski, Architect
POB 2537
Netanya, 42124 Israel
09-834-0744

It is human nature to grab what doesn't belong to one, and hang on to it as for as long as possible.--The arabs will NOT accept this plan, unless WE suggest that the alternative will be the forcible expulsion of them all - and war. ---IF we could convince them that we aready to fight - THEN there will not be a war. The arabs will go away willingly.--Unfortunately Pres. Bush has made a mess of Iraq. It is for us and us ALONE to show the arabs what exactly the conseqequences will be if they do not amicably agree to this Plan. --Thanks.

It seems clear that to pursue the Elon plan, one cannot simply governmentally reasign a population 3.5 million strong. A change of this magnitude has to come, even if only minimally, from the populace itself. It may be feasible to encourage the palestinians to aspire to have a national homeland on both sides of the Jordan. This would include pressuring jordan to become a legitimate democracy which with a palestinian population of more than 60% would automatically become palestinian, however this will only be successful if the palestinian population takes a jordanian democratic revolution on itslef as part of its national ideology. For this to occur the core palestinian national organisation which is presently the PA, has to be taken over by the islamic fundementalist organisations who view jordan as an American/Israeli ally. Furthermore the Israelis have to make a concerted effort to introduce the jordanian government into having a social role in the territories, all palestinian elected officials are subject to jordanian jurisdiction (moreso than the egyptian role in Gaza). Hence the islamic entity will revolt against a jordanian Israeli alliance. I think it naturally follows that if jordan were a democratic palestinian state, Israel would annex the entire Judea and Samaria, allowing for the remainding arab population the option of either accepting jodanian/palestinian citizenship or relocating there.

Mr Elon Your'e the smartest man since the great Rabbi Meir Kahane. Great plan. I think it should also encompass the release of our stranded Jewish brothers on Iran and the destruction of Hizbolla. Why cant Mr Sharon see the truth in this plan. Jordan should receive money from the un to takee Palestinian refugees. A large portion of Israeli arabs should also be relocated but not the bedoin or the druze. If one is loyal to the Jewish state of Israel he stays if not he goes. Shalom from Australia

ethnic cleansing
n. The systematic elimination of an ethnic group or groups from a region or society, as by deportation, forced emigration, or genocide.

We know that Jewish destiny is inextricably linked to the Torah.
Look what is happening this week:
1.The cabinet voted to abandon Gaza
2.We are told by our leaders that we cannot fight the enemy, we have to withdraw.
3.Gaza is really not ours
4.Benny Elon and Avigdor Lieberman decided not to go along, the way Caleb ben Yehudah and Yoshua bin Nun decided not to go along.

If we don't listen we may end up going around in circles for forty years. We will have to wait for the next generation to fight our battles and take possession of our land, because our generation failed to recognize its destiny.

Exchanging PA for Jordan may make things even more difficult for Israel, because:
1) Jordan wants the same thing as the PA, namely, Palestine from the river to the sea. Now they don't get involved because all the dirty work is done by the PA and other gangs.
2) They will refuse to take the people without the territory.
3) If they do take them where is the guarantee that there won't be a repeat of "Black September" (this time successful), i. e. the overthrow and assasination of Abdullah and the takeover of the government by PA type people.
(to be continued)

Having read in full the plan, I am full of admiration for the plain logic and strength of these ideas.

Why is it that only Benny Elon has the moral strength to point out the obvious - that Oslo and the Road Map will never lead to an end to the current conflict.

To have peace - one must have a real partner to participate with. This plan will allow that. Any MK who truly loves the land of Israel must support the principles as set out in this plan or stand condemned as being complicit in the destruction of Israel.

if only man could stand beside himself, he would hear how ridiculous his thoughts and beliefs are.

to all of you who support this idiot: wake up...palestine is here...stop dreaming...reality will bite you soon enough

Is the greatest enemy of the Jewish people and Israel for today. Antisemitism, which is being shared, mainly in the Muslim world and around some fractions in the Christian European and American world.

I'm short in time and place to put my all data I have gathered lately, but I want you to see, study and judge for yourself the roots, ‘logic’ and tactics of our haters. For that let me point to you some posts, cited from main US, European and PLO sites dealing with Jews, Judaism and Zionism as are shown in the Pravda English Main Forum:

http://engforum.pravda.ru/forumdisplay.php3?forumid=2

See for yourselves some posts I dug Accidentally:

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=59874

Why did the Germans start to discriminate against the Jews

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=63678

UN Staff Sees Israelis Shoot Boy in the Back

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=63836

WARNING !!!!... DO NOT SEE BABYLON'S JEW/NWO ABOMINATION MOVIE !!!!

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=58726

Israel's New Policy Of Terrorism On American Soil

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=63988

Heeb Magazine depicts virgin Mary as Dominzatrix

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=63689

Judassic Park

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=58747

Jewish control of Congress ...some quotes

http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?threadid=63380

The Jewish Establishment...

That was just few ….

Thanks

Abe

learning about this conflict in school, i have become quite involved in the events and happenings that have occurred. I agree with the many that have posted that this plan is an excellent alternative and idea to be presented to the world and begin to end this prolonged conflict. Something needs and has been needed to be done for decades and finally something sensible is coming from a sensible leader. May this plan succeed.

Benny Elon's plan is the plan that is good for Israel,because is based on truth.

And we learn:

There is no peace without justice.
There is no justice without truth.

Remember, the land of Israel belongs to the people of Israel!

Hatzlacha!
Aaron Swirski

What is the hold up in getting this plan implemented?
How can it become reality?

This plan is just a smokescreen for transfer of the Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza. If you are going to try and grab the land, at leaast be honest about it...

Once the thought of creating a Palestinian state within Israel was unheard of... now it is mainstream. Now the Benny Elon Plan is thought to be a dream. Supporters of this plan must spread the word. Please visit my website:
http://www.geocities.com/letisraelwin/index.html

Tha road trap is not going to work, this is the only State we have. This is the only way to keep our state.
Keep it up.

The is the best paln and the only sane one that anyone has come up with. DO IT 1

Many people do forget that Jordan is the true palestinian state, with the majority of population being palestinian. The fact that the arab nations intentionally refuse to grant citizenship rights to palestinians further proves that "palestinian issue" is a comfortable distraction for them; a distraction from their own internal problems driven by supression of human rights, dictatorship and tyronny. Saudi Arabia and Syria are the largest contributors to terror in this world and that is where US should have started the "clean up" as opposed to the Iraq.

I am also in a full agreement with the forcefull relocation of palestinians to Jordan, as I believe it would be beneficial not only to Israel but to the palestinian population in whole.

Congratulations to MK Benny Elon and all his supporters. In the cricial battle of ideas we should be on the offensive, not the defensive.
I developed a 50 page Baruch Plan that greatly strengthens the Elon Plan and also incorporates some of the larger visions presentd at the recent Jerusalem Summit. (www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng)
My plan protects Israel's development as a Jewish State and guards against Arab demographic encroachment. It also gives the so-called Palestinians a far better future than with any other plan. Logically, practically and morally it can defeat any other plan on all points in a fair comparison. It can win support from Jews, Christians and even among moderate Palestinains. I am a retired engineer and long time Jewish activist. Am seeking a few highly qualified associates to review, improve and promote this plan. They must be American Jews, highly intelligent, very well informed and practical minded with the ability to think analytically, strategically and tactically. We must be independent of both the Israeli government and the American Jewish establishment and be free to speak truth to power.
If qualified please e-mail me with some relevant background and we can then explore further.

THIS IS RACISM IN ITS BIGGEST WAY. we will decide that poeple that live for 100's of years in nablus and Hebron need to move, or to be under our control because we made a mistake in 1967 ? are you insane ? and what about east Jerusalem ? is that only ours too ? no wonder that we hear other nations talking about us in ways of " trying to rule the world" Can anybody understand that we are trying to put off a fire with fuel, and this is not the way. The way is Rabin's way: 2 nations, 2 states, 2 capital cities, and better sooner than later, because none of the kneset members lost a close family member during these teribble years, only the people is suffering. from both sides. I thought somebody that serves in the Knesset could be smarter and not racist. I was mistaken !

Kudos to Benny Elon and his team for this thorough and well thought out proposal. The next question is: how best to get it on the global agenda?

Adam Kaplan Atlanta, GA

Best plan, well thought out, not just something made on a scratch pad as the Bush plan looks.
But send all the illegal p.a. members back to Tunisia. But make sure arafat is held where he is now, without any access to phone, press, visitors etc. In fact he should be held until someone like Arabia takes him and holds him as they did amin.

Please present this to President Bush and continue to pressure Ariel Sharon into accepting this. The Palestinian Authority is a terrorist regime that must be destroyed and Jordan is "Palestine"

I am neither a citizen of Israel, nor Jewish; therefore, in humble deference to those of you whose lives are on the line:
If you purchase land you have a right to it. All modern law acknowledges this. Yes? Is there any difference in this situation? If you have not, or can not purchase any specific plot of land then leave it and it's inhabitants alone. Yes? Yes!
That is unless there is a greater authority that has said otherwise. In this case I contend that HaShem did. If this plan or any other plan for peace takes any authority other than that specific promise then the results will remain the same.

Now to the question of this plan; if it is based on the Eratz Israel promise: Did the promise have the same boundry? If the messenger of the promise stood astride the Jordan river is he now only to stand on one leg?

Mr. Elon, I agree that this is the Right Road Map to Peace.

Israel can be at peace only by being strong and in control of all of Eretz Yisrael, the land west of the Jordon river. Jordon has always been part of the old British solution being the Arab Palestinian state. Surely Jordon can either give up some land or be entirely a Palestinian state. With G-d's help, the Elon peace plan will be the new Middle East Peace Plan for 2004.

Mark
Chicago, IL. 8/1/03

YOUR PLAN IS INTERESTING BUT IT ISN'T MAIN STREAM!

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE MEDIA IS BIASED TOWARDS ISRAEL BUT IF YOU ORGANIZED PEOPLE IN ISRAEL TO MARCH ON THE JERUSALEM DEMANDING THIS PLAN THEN THE MEDIA WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO REPORT IT!
IF THEY DONT REPORT IT THEN IT SHOULD HAPPEN A COUPLE OF DAYS IN A ROW LIKE A FESTIVAL AND THEN MAYBE THEY WONT BE ABLE TO IGNORE IT!
IF YOU ORGANIZE IT THEN PEOPLE WILL COME AND THE MORE TIMES IT HAPPENS MORE PEOPLE WILL COME!

I SHALL SURELY BE THERE IF IT HAPPENS!

the one major thing that is missing in this document is a direct and forthright explanation of international law on the issue. the arabs have successfully convince most of the world (including most israelis) that civilian transfer is illegal. however, this is patently false.

Geneva Convention IV, article 49 clearly states: "the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand."
(http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/lawofwar/geneva07.htm)

It should be obvious to everyone that the security of both israelis and palestinians demands their complete separation behind defensible borders, which is utterly impossible in the west bank. therefore, removing them to jordan is both moral AND lawful. this must be publicized at every available opportunity!

I have one question that I would like the backers of the Road Map to answer: Given the current demographic reality of Israel, the proposed removal of all Jews from the West Bank and Gaza, and the formation of a Palestinian State, how does Israel propose to remain both a Jewish State and a democracy in another 30 years? (and please don't insult me with an answer relating to some kind of mass immigration of new citizens from abroad.) If backers of the Road Map can answer this one question with regards to decisions being made today concerning the future map of Israel, I will be silent.

I agree with about 98% of what is being said here. I would like to know where I can find out more, as well as how to begin making this more than simply an intellectual e-mail discussion.

Shalom! I just heard Mr. Elon on Politic's & Religion radio broadcast. I just want to say that HE is a man of G-d. This is what has been lacking in a mostly secular Israel. It is the biggest reason why Israel has had no real peace. G-d's prophecies will come to pass & He is waiting for the Chosen People to look only to Him & not man! The Bush plan will only bring judgement to America. We need to bless Israel & stand by them or we will be standing against G-d Himself! Thank you Mr. Elon for standing for the Truth! I will tell everyone I know about this site. www.Ezekiel33Graphics.homestead.com

This includes Jordan, South Lebanon (Dan), Syria occupied area of Golan, & Yesha.
The only valid RoadMap To Peace Is The Bible & Quran's Surah 17. Isra', The Night Journey, Children Of Israel 17:104 - Ezrot Hashem.
Therefore, No State of Palestine on any Israeli soil should ever be considered! No removal of any Israeli settlements or outposts, but support for new ones. No return of Arabs to the land of Israel. No Israeli land for Islamic peace. All Arab occupied lands of Israeli soil must be returned to Israel for a real and just peace!
Even the Quran recognizes Israel belonging to the Jewish people in the Surah 17. Isra', The Night Journey, Children Of Israel 17:104.
104. And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)"
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/17.htm

Thankfully there is some strong support for Israel, in America, where there are around fifty million+ of them [Christian Zionists]. The speakers stated that they [Christian Zionists] are opposed to the Road Map. http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=46085

The confused & secular Jewish should know: The rabbis cite chapter 23 of the Book of Exodus, which speaks of God driving out the Israelites' enemies from Canaan. They focus on the last verse of the chapter (33), which states “They [enemy nations] shall not live on your land.”
In the Knesset, Eldad quoted David Ben-Gurion's remarks made at the 20th Zionist Congress, that "No Jew has the right to forgo the right of the Jewish people in Israel. Any compromise is not binding for the Jewish people. Our right to the land in its entirety exists for eternity."
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=45947

After decades of attempts by the international community to help the PLO destroy Israel with a "Peace Plan" finally some one has gone back to the original problem and suggested we do what should have been done many many years ago. I do not have many resources but I want to help promote the "Right Road to Peace".

It is the only true Peace Plan for Israel and the Palestinian people that has ever been proposed in recent years.

Please let me know what I can do to help.

My subject line is not intended to "damn with faint praise", although it certainly appears so.

The truth is, I am very ignorant of the many factors involved in the Israeli/Palestinian conflicts. Therefore, I lack the acumen to compliment it properly. I abhor the bloodshed, and despise the homocide bombings and the anti-Jewish indoctrination of Palestinian children.

Perplexed, I recently e-mailed a friend, saying that the only solution for Israeli was to "jump up and kick ass", take over the disputed territories, destroy the terrorist camps, but deal mercifully with the "aliens" in accord with the Book of Ezekiel.

The "Right Road To Peace" involves much the same reclaiming of Israel's rightful territories, but with infinitely greater finesse and graciousness.

Benny Elan's plan is informative, well articulated, and employs a problem-solving strategy that considers all pertinent aspects of a problem, explores and enumerates existing resources, and proposes a mobilization of the various dynamics to achieve a constructive outcome that benefits all concerned.

My only question is this: is the United States government giving this plan the consideration that it deserves? Knowing no more than I presently know, but being duly impressed, I would certainly hope so.

God be with you.

This sounds like the best plan that I have been privilged to read. Please advertise it more throughly.

Congratulations Mr. Elon.Your plan is the first plan ever presented that is based on the history, geography and demography of Palestine.

However I believe that what is now needed are trilateral negotiations between Israel, Jordan and Egypt to allocate sovereignty of Judea Samaria and Gaza between these three States.

Areas of greatest Arab populations should be allocated to Egypt and Jordan whilst areas of greatest Jewish population should be allocated to Israel. Israel will end up with about 20% of what was Palestine whilst Jordan will end up with 80% of what was Palestine.

Two peoples - the Jews and the Arabs - need two States in Palestine, not three States. This is the message that needs to be repeatedly stated and stressed.

Please pursue this plan because it makes so much sense! We are Americans who love Israel dearly and are extremely agonized over the senseless loss of Jewish ife that is going on. Please persevere!

I have been constantly frustrated by the fact that none of the current (until now) or past peace plans deal with the whole problem, from where it started. Eveyone seems to want to forget that the British Mandate already gave us a Palestinian state.

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